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View Poll Results: Should I do this?
Yes, it is a good idea 11 30.56%
No, it is unethical 15 41.67%
No, you wouldn't be able to do it 6 16.67%
Unsure 4 11.11%
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:36 PM   #11
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The one I would have chosen was not in there. It would have been more like yes--it is unethical. I think you should do this, but if one of them actually notices it you should stop.
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:26 PM   #12
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This kind of thing is hard to tell if it's crossing the line.

I mean, obviously, doing something to change the behavior of others without their full consent is pretty bad.

But on the other hand, you're reasonably helping them and the entire environment by sacrificing your time and energy to help them change.

Very tough thing... even if you already found a solution, it's still a moral question to ponder upon.

Yes, it's for the better good. No, you're altering the natural flow of people's lives.
Each thing seems to step over the other, hm?
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:40 AM   #13
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Quite frankly Masipups, I've generally already done it before I have time to analyse. Not always, I do like to consider decisions but real life often doesn't give you luxury of plenty of time.

I make mistakes but there have been occasions when if I hadn't been instinctual then I'd be dead.

Least necessary intervention seems relevant. Take the example of surgery - drastic but quite often in the patients best interest. Even "cosmetic" surgery can make a huge difference to people's quality of life.

I prefer to talk things over and be reasonable, but sometimes you got to take a stand. Because people aren't always reasonable - and even when it seems they are, sometimes that masks a sneakier intent.

We all have an inner sneak. It's there to keep us alive... but you got to keep it leashed. Like an inner beast. It's only there for the bedroom and self preservation.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:21 AM   #14
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well, this whole thread 8 months ago was a moral debate and today it remains the same. Morals are individualized and depending on the person's views upon the world, society and themselves, those dictate their morals; we have a societal expectancy to have inherently good morals. But no-one is perfect, no mortal being is ever perfectly moral. So these arguments just turn into who is the most open about it and who is the moral white-knight.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:27 PM   #15
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"First you must build the moral order" <- Sun Tzu. "Art of War" is a very good book.
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Performing an action without the individual's knowledge of said act is considered unethical for reasons for conspiracy and suspicious. Truth is everyone does it to everyone else. Brothers, mothers, and strangers can be pushed aside or toward a motive by your action. If not consciously made then least through created through impulse. Fortunately this isn't an epistemology question, rather a moral. Should you change the person without his/her knowledge? It might breech his/her free will.

The ethical question for me is should the individual have a consent from said action of psi manipulation. Normally when someone is dieing from a gunshot and is not conscious, no one will find you reliable for failure. Sounds like this isn't a life and death scenario. Rather a guy/girl interested in a subject. My recommendation is fight ignorance with knowledge. Use words of intelligence, emotion, and possibility personal knowledge to catch the persons interests. Changing perception through psi is simpler to changing a person through drugs. You don't know the effects it will have on them.

So, yes this is unethical.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:36 PM   #17
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I was thinking about using telepathy to somehow "correct" my rebellious classmates into actually listening to the teacher. Is this a good idea?
so, you'd use your gifts to subvert their free will?

that's some pretty dark juju if you ask me.
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I dont see any ethical or moral reason why not, as it will not hurt them, and will help both your own training, and their educations. Of course, as Ive engaged in this sort of thing before, my view may be slightly skewed due to self-justification :P
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I dont see any ethical or moral reason why not, as it will not hurt them, and will help both your own training, and their educations. Of course, as Ive engaged in this sort of thing before, my view may be slightly skewed due to self-justification :P
Depends on what the teacher is saying really...

... I can't give a definite answer. Each situation is different.

I guess encouraging focus on the teacher is generally a positive thing to do.
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I was at the V Spciety and brought the discussion there. There has been a few changes in the situation. If you want more info, read the thread.

http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php/topic,20655.0.html
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